Rarities - ISO and Sources

AKWindWatcher · 2023-03-03T01:54:25+00:00

I thought I'd start a discussion dedicated to the hunt for, and the finding of, rare ones. I know there are some that have been part of other discussions (H...

edewitt

todgor I was looking for that too because I need more large yellow bi-color blooms in my life. I haven't grown Grand Prix since 2010. I remember it made A LOT of foliage and if you didn't pay attention the blooms would get buried.

Cosey

FRPride is beautiful. Every year I ask my seedlings for a decent yellow bicolor and every year I'm left wanting. Trevor, in Canada, has a gorgeous yel/wht seedling that I'm drooling over. I've tried others over the years and I either got bad stock or was sent mislabels because they all were solid yellow for me.

AKWindWatcher

Cosey I take backup cuttings for all of my rare ones and winter them over in their pots as extra, extra insurance. With luck, I'll have several extra FR Pride tubers to spread around. 🤞🍀

todgor

Krista

Grand Prix is an AA, bigger than Fernridge Pride. Its mostly at box stores though and what you get is often something else. Sadly my tolerance for digging in cold wet soil has declined so I don't have some saved. I have however managed to keep Warf going since 2013.

Krista

todgor It sure is pretty, and I understand not being interested in cold, wet digging. Grand Prix is a stunner, I’ve previously been less interested in buying yellows but when I see them in the fall they’re suddenly the only color I want to see. I’ll keep my eyes peeled for this one - also, headed over to Google to educate myself on warf!

todgor

Krista
This is Warf which I got at FGL (a Canadian seller). They lost it and I was determined to save it. Even when I did not dig it a few years it managed to survive - maybe I have the only stock. It made more tubers than usual this past year, so I hope to multiply it. Its an A sized bloom.

Krista

todgor Oh my, what a beauty! I’m so glad you came back with a photo, Google was not generous with info on Warf. No pressure maintaining the very last stock - I’m happy you’re continuing to keep this one with us! With A sized blooms, I bet this one is magnificent to lay eyes on.

AKWindWatcher

todgor - if you have enough extras, (and after getting it back to FGL) 'd love to get a tuber or cutting. A big focus of my collection is doing just what you did with this one. Preserve the rarities so they don't go extinct. LOVE that you saved this one!! The more people growing them the better. Especially if they're growing in different parts of the country so that if one area has horrific weather (and losses as a result) other parts of the country might be just fine.

silvarerum

todgor I love this!

Krista

I'm not sure this is the best place for this because I'm not necessarily ISO, but I've been wondering about the Giraffe dahlia; is Pink Giraffe a sport? If so, would it ever sport back to yellow/orange? And does anyone still grow Tahoma Giraffe? And does RaeAnn’s Gemini almost have a similar, lateral striped color pattern? (Lobaugh's photo)

AKWindWatcher

Krista I think Pink Giraffe may be a sport of Giraffe. I'll have both this year for the first time but other friends have had both for some time. Nobody has said Pink Giraffe reverts back. I think it's fairly stable. I haven't seen Tahoma Giraffe but I LOVE RaeAnn's Gemini!

Teddahlia

is Pink Giraffe a sport? Yes a sport of the old timer called Giraffe. If so, would it ever sport back to yellow/orange? It will never sport back in my opinion. And does anyone still grow Tahome Giraffe? I asked Les Connell before he died about his Tahoma Giraffe and he had lost it. Never have seen it anywhere. And does RaeAnn’s Gemini almost have a similar, lateral striped color pattern? Yes, in spades.

Krista

Teddahlia (starting a new discussion for this) Thank you for answering all of my questions about Giraffe. Are there other dahlias that have the same lateral color pattern that are still in existence? And can specific color patterns like this be bred for with intention?

Krista

AKWindWatcher Oh I’ll be really excited to see your photos of the Giraffes this summer! I was able to find a Pink Giraffe that I’m really excited about. How does it do as a tuber producer and how would you rate it in storage? RaeAnn's Gemini will be new to me this year also and I’m really happy that she comes with such a glowing report, I do think she’s very intriguing!

calico20hill

I had a seedling that looked like Giraffe offspring for a few years but regrettably lost it before we moved. I. remember Les was quite interested when I showed it to him. It would have been a random seedling when I first started saving seeds and growing them.

Krista

Teddahlia Wow! This has me very excited about this one - I just love those stripes. It's a total weirdo, that's for sure, but I think it'll be really fun!

calico20hill Oh perhaps another stripey babe will reappear in your seedling bed one day, how cool!

Teddahlia

Pink Giraffe from Wiki

Darce

Teddahlia

Clack’s used to sell a giraffe dahlia but I could never snag it - do you know if Clacks will ever go back to selling tubers online? I know from Cubit’s chats you have often visited with Ginger Clack and her amazing garden

Teddahlia

Re Ginger Clack: My second hand knowledge is that they did not dig the dahlias. She got her hip replacement(knee?) and was recovering a few weeks ago.

Darce

Teddahlia
Oh thanks for the info - I hope she is doing well and recovering nicely!

calico20hill

Krista Well, yes, that is the fun of it and why I "need' to keep buying tubers. I need their genes to try out for varieties sake! Never know what will come out next in one.

Krista

calico20hill I'm going to have to start collecting seeds to use this excuse for the incoming deliveries with my partner 😅

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