Rarities - ISO and Sources

AKWindWatcher · 2023-03-03T01:54:25+00:00

I thought I'd start a discussion dedicated to the hunt for, and the finding of, rare ones. I know there are some that have been part of other discussions (H...

edewitt

Anyone know if there's anyone growing Vera's Elma here in the US? I used to see it but haven't in awhile.

MIDahlias

edewitt I have Vera's Elma. Message, I think there are private messages here somewhere, Send me your email for next year.

Teddahlia

Vera's Elma was a personal favorite back when. When you find it, we can trade and you can really cut a fat hog.

calico20hill

I was wondering why I have so few Salish Twilight Girl tubers this year. I grew so many last year, including all the seedlings that looked just like their mama. "Light Bulb comes on....." OH yeh, you were going to try leaving your tubers in the raised beds over winter and you only dug a few plants of each kind to save your stock. THere are probably a good 15 Twilight girl originals or seedling copies of them out there ready to pop out of the new layer of dirt you added! Big DUH! So now I wait to see where they are and remove the extras! Just how many STG will I find! I better find last years planting charts!

JessieC

calico20hill What a thrilling discovery! All I found in my garden beds this morning was stray weeds 😂

calico20hill

What did I find? NOTHING! I found NOTHING! I Must have dug them but where are they?! I Have lots of the pink variant but not many at all of Twilight Girl. I have one tray of small clumps to clean and divide but t. ON the other hand I probaby have 40 of the pink. variant I am calling Salish Twilight Lullabye. THey were very pretty but I do love the lavender and silver of STG.

Krista

calico20hill Oh no! That STG is such an elusive gal. I’m hoping your stash is just hiding out somewhere being extra safe, stealthily awaiting her planting day.

calico20hill

I FOUND 8 or 9 and that is enough. It still seems like there should be a lot more somewhere.

Dahlia53

HiDahlia oh yes... i would love to get Bracken Ballerina again. Also of course, Fern Ridge Pride and Alena Rose (Greenway) was a stunning WL and good tuber maker for me. I won't tell you how I lost that one... too ashamed. 🙁 @AKWindWatcher it's good to know you got the Fern Ridge pride and the bracken ballerina. I hope you make tons of cuttings for next year!

Dahlia53

todgor fern ridge pride is the only dahlia i am still grieving over losing. would have had a few tubers to share this year too - finally. I hope at least people will start growing this one again so i can have it again in the garden. it is my favorite of all. None of the other big yellow and white dahlias i know have its exact yellow. Plus, I loved how its flowers always stood above the foliage and didn't seem to get buried in it.

todgor

Dahlia53
I wonder if there's one of those scientific terms for fear of not being able to grow your favorite dahlia variety. There is one more chance maybe Heaven on Earth might have a Fern Ridge Pride May 1.

blown_dry

Teddahlia HH Twilight is very rare and I used keep a pot tuber of it but finally lost it.

I got it from Jerry Schoenauer of JS Dahlias. He sells it in limited amounts most years I think. I am going to sink a 1 gallon pot of potting soil to plant it in, in hopes of keeping it going in my garden. I've had some success with that method so far for shy tuber keepers. Wish I had adopted it sooner.

Juliarugula

blown_dry I got it from Jerry Schoenauer of JS Dahlias.

I don’t think I saw it on his list this year, but I’ll keep an eye out at our dahlia society tuber sale this next weekend. He’s a member, so maybe a tuber or two will show up!

MIDahlias

todgor Someone in my local dahlia society said to me, "it amazes me how people will hoard their favorite dahlia. you have to share with a friend. If you lose it, you have a possibility of getting it back, If you hoard it, you'll eventually never see it again." One of life's truths I live by.

Dahlia53

todgor HOE had it, but only for previous customers, and only a few. I asked. Been asking others. Will keep asking everyone who grows dahlias who might have it, until I am reunited with it. If I ever get it back I am going to grow several of them as insurance - and make sure tubers go to people who are serious about keeping it going.

AKWindWatcher

Juliarugula There's a thread buried in here somewhere about the one Thomas has. He had it labeled Ferncliff Pride but I called up Ferncliff and they've never had a FC Pride. What Thomas has - at least in pictures - looks exactly like Fern Ridge Pride. I have his version coming this year and am working to get Fern Ridge from a different grower so I can put the two side by side. I'm betting they are one and the same. He's changed the name on his inventory to Fern Ridge since Ferncliff is absolutely not correct. (And, to be honest, I can totally see how Ferncliff and Fern Ridge could get mixed up.)

Juliarugula

AKWindWatcher

Sorry I realize now I didn’t specify who I was talking about - Jerry Schoenauer is a member of the dahlia society in my area, not Thomas.

Dahlia53

AKWindWatcher Please sell me one next year if you have success!

AKWindWatcher

Juliarugula Gotcha! I think I got confused too because your post was right below the one about HOE possibly having it today. (I don't think he did.)

AKWindWatcher

MIDahlias Totally agree! If I get rarities, I try and grown as many as possible to share with others. The more people growing, the better the chances of survival. I also love being able to help be a backup for the original hybridizers. Nothing is sadder to me than a person who has poured their time, talent and heart into a variety losing it.

Dahlia53

MIDahlias Yep. I finally, after years of growing Fern Ridge Pride, had a nice clump of tubers - enough to share around - until it froze in my storage unit. I am heartbroken. I have always shared my favorites around locally... problem is, a lot of people are kind of blase about dahlias and think of them as annuals. Several more that I loved and lost - suffolk punch, Alena Rose (from Ken Greenway, another loss that broke my heart) and the salmon-into yellow laccinated Sheabird. I believe that now may be extinct. So next year, anyone who managed to get Fern Ridge Pride and has extra tubers or cuttings to sell, please let me buy it! I'm still pining for it! I'm still obsessing on it badly! 😂

Teddahlia

Losing some varieties you have bred is inevitable.

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