She isn't shipping and I don't want to give out her personal profile but I can let you know if I get tubers and grow them.
Rarities - ISO and Sources
bloomhjelm Zero expectations but if that works out, I'll gladly take you up on that offer!
Had the chance to chat with Philip Mingus today. So, new one on the ISO list is for him. Mingus Loren P. It sounds like Connie might have it but, just in case, I thought I'd add it to this thread. In case it's hiding in someone's garden.
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AKWindWatcher I saw on Facebook something about this. It sounds like people have been hunting for it since at least 2022. I hope he finds it.
I did run across Mingus Millie B this year which I hadn't found before.
Also, Janet Riley at the farm which was previously Mike Iler's (Riley Blossoms) had some unknown variegated collarettes listed in the 2023 catalog. Very possibly not a lead at all, since they are probably just his own seedlings, but you never know.
bloomhjelm Thanks! I'd forgotten that I'd seen those in her catalog. I know she was working on identifying everything. I'll shoot her a note. Thanks for the reminder!
There was a post in the ISO FB group today from someone looking for Mrs. Mary Martin. I could find very little about it. Has anyone actually seen this variety? If so, what did you think of it?
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Really old dahlias are generally extinct. The National Collection in the UK was a repository for old ones and was supposedly supported by sales of the rare tubers. It was run at one time by David Brown who has more recently become a collector of dahlia photos. The National garden was not open for sales to the USA but it was nice to know that they were preserving many of them. I cannot believe that all varieties are not kept in liquid nitrogen somewhere.
Blyton Ermine picture by Dave Spencer
Continuing my hoarding of Australian dahlia photos. I'd love to grow a US dahlia with this kind of milky apricot yellow.
bloomhjelm the petals on that remind me of Netherton Cindy, which appears with more lavender in hotter weather. Roque Starburst has a creamy yellow blush. And Creamy has the creamy yellow part covered. That's as close as I've grown.
Color is different things to different people. Buttermilk, au lait, cream, light yellow, off white, chalk, and hundred others are words for colors that appeal to a lot of people. Sour milk or milk curds or perhaps "mud puddle white" may be used by people who are not captivated by this class of colors. Color is "better" when evenly distributed and I cannot stand petals that look transparent as they are not attractive and burn in the bright sunlight. I should stop here and say that breeding a nice off white or cream flower is difficult. There have been many "almost nice" ones and MM Butter Cream was a really nice one except it always had slightly open center.
Here is my photo of MM Buttercream. It was a very very cool lemon yellow sometimes. I could maybe see what you're saying.
The variety Creamy sold by Ginger Clack was originated by an obscure defunct dahlia operation in Eastern Oregon. I believe it was located in the thriving metropolis of Heppner, a nice small town not on the way to anywhere. It's only claim to fame was the thunderstorm caused flood that killed 247 people in 1903. I can get a bit off subject.
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Jan Jones, of Jan's Country Garden, has Alzheimer's. It is so sad to see her declining so rapidly. She lives about 10 minutes from me and we have been friends for 30+ years. Interestingly, we share a birthday, 20 years apart. I used to help her dig and divide in the fall and plant in the spring. The last year she grew dahlias was the year she broke her back and she left all the plants in the ground over winter and most of them did not make it. Her gardens were gorgeous. She grew over 500 different dahlia varieties. One of her care-givers now grows a hundred or so plants that I gave back to them a couple of years ago. Jan no longer remembers any of the variety names, but her eyes light up when she see the blossoms and she says they are all beautiful.
Jan's Country Gardens had a good reputation for years. Sorry to hear about her health problems.
katyaker How beautiful that when all else goes she can still enjoy dahlias!
katyaker Sad to hear about her health issues. I always enjoyed my communications with Jan. She was one of the first dahlia suppliers I ordered from when I first became interested in dahlias.
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MissyWeitzel Creamy is lovely! I love those soft moonlit yellows - Creamy has that blush of warmth from the apricot. Love it.
blown_dry I know exactly what you are talking about - those cool, lemony, almost greenish light or pale yellows or creams really appeal to me! Is MM Buttercream also extinct now? I hope not; it is now on my seek and find list, based on your picture.
Has anyone grown Creamy? Do they/did they like it? Thanks,\