Rarities - ISO and Sources

AKWindWatcher · 2023-03-03T01:54:25+00:00

I thought I'd start a discussion dedicated to the hunt for, and the finding of, rare ones. I know there are some that have been part of other discussions (H...

AKWindWatcher

I keep missing out on scoring Crazy 4 Don so thought I'd post that ISO here just in case anybody might have it (and an extra tuber) at some point. 🙂

joepa60

Dahlia53 Del’s Dahlias has it listed on their site for sale this year. Might be worth trying to contact them.

Dahlia53

joepa60 thanks, Joe. Just seeing your response now. Worth a try. I only had good stock of it once for a few years, and lost it in a freeze. I will remain undaunted. 🙂

SteveM

I am looking for seeds of the Tree Dahlia hybrid that is/was offered by Dr. Keith Hammett of New Zealand. Because of restrictions, he is no longer able to ship seeds to the US or UK.

BackyardBouquets_17

SteveM
https://www.plant-world-seeds.com/store/view_seed_item/7063/dahlia-campanulata-seeds?srsltid=AfmBOorz-n56vFBUFvqJV8mYZA-70uznTotnhC3Lm1cS_eOVJxkq68e7

Something like this what you’re looking for? Ive gotten seeds from here before but not dahlia ones. I know it’s not Keith’s but might be similar. Apply for a small lot seed permit ( u can easily do it for free online, the first time I did it an was unsure how so I just googled it an was able to figure it out that way)

If you scroll to the bottom of Plant World seeds and check their delivery it’ll tell u what u need to do for a US customer. Unless things recently changed for them they had still shipped to the us.

Teddahlia

Dr. Hammett's PhD ? student developed the dahlia tree that had wood but he thought it would not be commercially viable to sell. So we took it upon ourselves to develop our Hollyhill tree dahlias. Did I say that with a "straight face"?

SteveM

Teddahlia to develop our Hollyhill tree dahlias.

The Hollyhill tree dahlias are very nice but, at only 8' tall, they are a little on the short side.🙂

SteveM

BackyardBouquets_17 Something like this what you’re looking for?

Thank you, that looks like a good source for some of the species dahlias that are not readily available online.

The hybrid I am looking for was created by Melanie Gatt by crossing D. coccinea X D. apiculata. Dr Hammett crossed this hybrid with D. tenuicaulis (and made other crosses and selections) to create the hybrid tree dahlia seeds he offers on his website. If I decide I need another dahlia project I will contact Dr. Hammett for more information on the cross and possible US sources of the hybrid seed. I have been interested in this hybrid for years but might have waited too long to source the seeds.

BackyardBouquets_17

https://www.plant-world-seeds.com/store/view_seed_item/8235/dahlia-imperialis-alba-seeds

Or here is another from the same company

DarcyD

Has anyone seen Elizabeth Mellinger around lately? I’d love to find it again.

joepa60

I was wondering if anyone has seen any of the Athalie’s recently? I’m specifically looking for Athalie and Majestic Athalie because I think I found Lavender Athalie.

katyaker

MIDahlias I am checking with my Mingus dahlia supplier. I have Mingus Philip Sr. but not Philip II. I also have Philip Mingus II's phone number. If my friend does not have it I will text Philip II. I would imagine he would have it.

MIDahlias

katyaker Thank you for reaching out to your "supplier" 😁 and possibly to the source.

Please let me know if you find it. I will immediately send you a check and/or some tubers if I have something you would like.

MIDahlias

katyaker I just learned Jody Meggos is the CSDS President's Choice flower for the National shoe this year.

I would love to find both. I appreciate any help you can offer to help me find source(s).

joepa60

MIDahlias not sure if you’re looking for other Mingus varieties but Glenerie Farm just opened this morning and they have Mingus Toni and Mingus Randy listed. I haven’t seen either of those anywhere else this year so far.

joepa60

MIDahlias

MIDahlias so last year JS Dahlias sold Jody Meggos and they opened in April. They’re the only ones that I can find that have sold it verified. Might be worth giving them a ring just to see. Their number is (574) 825-5132.

BarryO

MIDahlias
Why do dahlia societies choose fairly obscure cultivars for their Show Flower? The recent trend has been to select a dahlia FORM, rather than a specific named cultivar, to facilitate ease of entry. For example, my local society has designated any BB, FD or ID, as its Show flower this season....there are countless possibilities to enter.

LoveLanguageDahlias

MissyWeitzel Pleasant Valley Glads and Dahlias has Rejman's Polish Kid on their list. :-)

MissyWeitzel

LoveLanguageDahlias I actually just ordered it from Old House. Thank you!

Teddahlia

Rejman's Polish Kid: we almost sold it as for the first time as it made extra tubers. I am going to gift a couple to the person who gave it to me several years go. It is the best bicolor as is proven by it's long term show record. It is not a real vigorous plant but grows OK. Smallish tubers and not a lot of them usually.

MIDahlias

BarryO I don't know. Southeastern Michigan Dahlia Society, had a ballot box at their show for the public to decide. Their 2025 flower of the year is Ketchup & Mustard. It will be easy for the society to offer enough of this cultivar to everyone who would like it.

For the larger shows, it would be nice if they could announce the President's choice, Flower of the year at least one year before the show.

Challenge classes are usually sponsored by a society or an individual, so that is a little harder to request in advance. I think one can get a good idea of what the challenge classes might be based on the year prior show booklet. For example, Michigan Dahlia Society always sponsors the Midwest origination challenge section for the Midwest show.

Teddahlia

It is a bit depressing but when a breeder dies, there are quite often classes set up for his(her) flowers. I would like to see a challenge class for "old time" best in show winners. Older the better. Some of those "oldies" were spectacular and when this is done, stock is rounded up and multiplied making it easier for the variety to survive possible extinction. For example, I believe that was done some years ago and Jennie was located and multiplied and the show was successful and it is much easier to find because of that. Jessica would be good candidate.

MissyWeitzel

Teddahlia there is a really great exhibitor team in the midwest who regularly show Jessica. I'm somewhat ashamed to admit it looks like a dahlia I'd be terrible at growing so I never paid much attention to it.

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