The show person in me dislikes green centers and your Camano Zoe has them. When fully mature they generally go away. I am prejudiced against CZ as when judging years ago, the entire judging team and the clerk ganged up on me to select CZ over my selection of a Barbarry Gem flower. I am not one to give up when I think I am right but they were unwavering in their selection of CZ. Of course, it went on to win an even higher award and they enjoyed saying "we told you so!"

    Well, I went ahead and emailed the seller to inquire about it, so maybe we’ll find out?

      Teddahlia Well last season, I had very few without the green center, I’m afraid. This year’s batch probably won’t bloom for a few more weeks, so maybe they’ll be better. I know I’ve asked before, but when you say “fully mature,” you mean that a bloom that didn’t open prematurely due to the heat, correct? Green centers plague me in the heat of central VA, and last summer was far less oppressive.
      Juliarugula I look forward to their reply! It’s such a pretty shape and color. I’m about done with CZ, so maybe your mystery variety will be a good choice for 2025. Odyssey was taken out by spider mites, and did not wow me at its debut.


        I absolutely love Pink Pearl. Was going to get Comano Zoe but the lady was sold out and after these bloomed I was glad I went this route instead . The pic does make em seem more lavender than they actually r

        JessieC

        JessieC I look forward to their reply! It’s such a pretty shape and color. I’m about done with CZ, so maybe your mystery variety will be a good choice for 2025.

        Whelp…. The bad news is that the seller had no idea what it was, but asks if I can send her some in the spring/fall. 🤣🤣

        BackyardBouquets_17 As for the original question how does you id needed bloom compare to Irish D Porter

        I haven’t grown Irish D Porter, so I can’t say for sure. I’m pretty sure this one is too big to be a Pom though.


          Oversized micro seedling. They have to be less than 2 inches in diameter. I will measure again.

          Juliarugula
          Sometimes my 20th Avenue Memory flowers look a bit like your mystery flower. They grow on a medium height plant with nice thick stems.

            I am really impressed with most 20th Ave flowers. My first was 20th AVE Major but it makes no seed(one occasionally but not in my garden) My picture above is a flower only 2.25 inches in diameter. Going for micro fds.

            Emilyp I have 20th Ave Memory and this is very different! More petals, smaller bloom, much more peachy-blushy.

            I feel like some of JessieC’s Camano Zoe’s are close, but the petals on CZ are still noticeably elongated compared to these.

            However, an argument in favor of Camano Zoe is that the tuber was labelled Canoz Jaguar, and I could see how a poorly written label might get transcribed wrong.

            An argument against CZ is that I don’t see any evidence that the seller had that variety at any point.

            12 days later

            Ok new one. Does anybody know if this is Mingus Anita P? The only photo I can find online looks pretty different, although it wouldn’t be totally out of the question for it to be correct (colors looks approximately correct)

              Teddahlia Pinelands Princess?

              I thought maybe too. But then I found a second picture of Mingus Anita that’s making me think maybe the id was correct after all. What do you think? Mine is much more fimbriated, but I’m thinking now that maybe it’s a correct ID after all.

              (Funny - the photos have the blooms conveniently facing exactly the same direction…)

              Teddahlia Mingus Anita may not be around anymore.

              Is that a round-about way of saying “doesn’t look like a match”? Or do you have insider info?

              (I picked this up at a society sale, so could be anything, and no real way to track down any information about it…).

              (Also, it’s sort of not really ringing my bell so not sure I’ll grow it another year one way or another.)

                I researched it on dahliaaddict . No one has it for sale. Anita is no longer in the ADS Classification book. Pinelands Princess was very popular back when and is a Cyril Higgo variety from South Africa. In the old days ,you could buy seeds from laciniated dahlias from Cyril Higgo. Most seeds that people buy are duds but these Higgo seeds were dynamite and there were several introduced from them. Tioga varieties are an example. I believe Myrtle's Folly may be one also. I should have bought some but did use Nenekazi as a seed parent and got one good seedling(HH Miss Scarlet) that is still around but barely.
                We quit growing laciniated flowers when all the notches on the petals ruined really nice flowers. It worked and we have very few notched flowers now.

                  Juliarugula ask Phil Mingus! I've found several dahlia varieties at society sales that nobody sells anymore. It seems like a lot of members in my club tend to grow mostly the same stuff year after year, maybe getting a couple new ones to replace any stock they lose. I think there are a lot of almost extinct varieties hiding in society tuber sales and it makes me wish I could shop them all!

                    Teddahlia thanks for the info! That’s interesting regarding seed sales!

                    MissyWeitzel ha! I suppose that would be the logical thing to do, huh? And, yeah, society sales are the very best….

                    Phill Mingus died several years ago and his son was supposed to keep things going. A pass off to a relative often is not successful and the son was not able to even dig the last of his dahlias, let alone plant them again. This happened while Phil was sick and he desperately tried to get some stock together but was not able to do so.

                    I forgot that our society has several donors who specialize in donating the new varieties and often the same years releases from cuttings. For example, I give stock of new ones to a member that donates lots of cuttings to our sales and auction. Yes, we do sell tubers of old reliable flowers but I hardly ever even look at that table.