2024 Orders and Openings Chat

Juliarugula · 2023-08-01T22:12:46+00:00

I thought today might be a good day to start the 2024 thread, since I was browsing through the newly rolled over DahliaAddict site. Has anybody heard if Cle...

Juliarugula

blown_dry My big thing I was after this morning was Fun Fair

I saw that one as I was browsing the sale after the fact and thought it looked super cool! Glad you were successful! Hopefully you’ll have some fun photos to share this summer.

AndreaB

Juliarugula yes, please share photos, Amanda. The colors in your pic are much softer compared to some others I’ve seen, that had a lot more saturated color.

bloomhjelm

Teddahlia - This is much better background than I hoped to get on the Tioga prefix. Thanks. 🙂

DarcyD

blown_dry

This one is amazing, Amanda!! Yay! Worth just getting one! I wish I'd done that, too with the one I really wanted.

MissyWeitzel

calico20hill yes, PM me if you don't get Wyoming Wedding from a nearby friend. I'm cutting it from my grow plan this year and will have a few extra tubers. I have 2 other similar color and size dahlias that performed a lot better for me.

blown_dry

AndreaB I noticed the same thing. I feel pretty certain that this has that deep rose pigment that fades quickly in the sun and the other photos show it pre-fade. I like that in a dahlia though. AC Ring of Fire is another one.

AndreaB

blown_dry That’s exactly what I thought… AC Ring of Fire!

And another AC ROF that looks more like Fun Fair 😊
(Note the Hollyhill reaching for the sky)

Teddahlia

The famous botanist Lawrence in the 1920s and 1930s noted that there were several versions of dahlia pigment that fade. A red one he called pale anthocyanin is actually scarlet red and is brighter(before it fades.) than the more stable reds. Most dahlia breeders avoid the fading versions but the brightest dahlia flowers are some that have the pigment.

Krista

I have a past lifetime that included hair/cosmetology school. I vaguely remember that red-based color pigments faded more readily than others because of the shape and size of the red color molecules. I wonder if any of this crosses over?

blown_dry

Krista It's still common for many red pigments to fade the fastest. Visible light is radiation. I think it's a little wacky that we have these radiation sensors that our brain uses to map our surroundings via the waves bouncing off of it. Anyway, Items that are bouncing away only the least energetic, safest visible radiation (reds) are therefore absorbing all of the more energetic and damaging wavelengths (the rest of the spectrum of visible radiation). I understand it's not just a radiation issue but also some of the more common red pigments are especially vulnerable for structural reasons at the molecular level.

Teddahlia

Well, that is an interesting question and one to ask a chemist. As a person who only took one year of chemistry in college, I am not the one to ask. My son is a working chemist at an analytical chemical lab. I bet he would say that some versions of anthocyanin have stronger chemical bonds that do not break down as easily. Hair dye may use an entirely different chemical.
What color from the ADS chart is most likely to fade?

Krista

Teddahlia I’m not sure which one would actually be most likely to fade if it were a synthetic hair color. It’s been over 20 years since cosmetology school! If I were to guess today though, I’d choose maybe DR-2. The deeper shades would have more blue and the lighter shades may have more yellow stacked in to help fill. The truer reds might have less building pigments that would serve to hold the red color and prevent it from falling out of the hair cuticle. Maybe? I hope there’s someone on here who has more recent education or a better understanding and can fact-check what I’m saying. 🤨

Dahlia53

Krista i'm no chemist or hairdresser, but I love red dahlias, have tried many, and have noticed that the true reds - the red-reds- don't fade.

Reds with more blue in them seem to fade more quickly in the hottest sunniest weather. I suppose they need more shade.

AndreaB

Good morning! I know it’s early… Crazy4Dahlias is open if anyone is interested!

Emilyp

AndreaB Darn, I missed it! He had some great ones too! I guess all the people with the bots programmed scored on this one, as not many people are shopping for dahlias at 4 AM.
I sound like a Bitter Betty! 😅

NCDahlia

John must of opened at 6 am. I am in the same time zone as him lol happy I got a few really wanted hollyhill day dream WL after seeing so many amazing pictures of it here.

I was able to get Hollyhill Carefree, Purple Joy, and Crazy Julia.

JessieC

NCDahlia Oh the Hollyhill WL tubers keep slipping through my fingers. I did get 20th Ave Softer Peach to add to my collection of peach ball shaped dahlias. I guess you can’t have too many. And for some reason I put one called Big Bend Tony in my cart after I lost some of the others. I’d never ever heard of it!
Glad you got some fun ones!! 🤗

KitCMC

NCDahlia he opened before then! I was shopping at 4:40 Central and MANY items were already sold out.

AndreaB

JessieC I did get 20th Ave Softer Peach to add to my collection of peach ball shaped dahlias.

This one is great, Jessie! Bloomed itself silly for me. Can’t wait to grow it again.

AndreaB

Emilyp I agree with you on the “bots”.

Only 5 of the 14 I had bookmarked were sold out when I stumbled on his site at 5:45 EST.
I sure got out of bed fast! I still only bought 2 because the ones I really wanted were in the
group of 5.

NCDahlia And not to add salt to the wound… but Lilibet was still available. I was shocked.

NCDahlia

20th Ave softer peach is a great one. Have grown it, I like all of Rich Gibson's dahlias nice hybridizer.

I am just glad I will have dahlias to grow in 2024 lol. I really need to not participate in anymore dahlia sales this year... my wife is going to lose her mind when 20 dahlia tuber boxes show up in April 🤣

JessieC

NCDahlia Oh glad to hear it! I tried to get Memory too, but didn’t move fast enough. Oh well! Nice to try things bred in Maryland, since I’m in VA and the weather challenges are similar.
Maybe you need to stage a distraction for tuber delivery season. Or work out a plan with the mailman 😂

DarcyD

I woke up at 6a and checked my phone. I was 2 hours late for opening I think but was happy 20th Ave Mom was still available, and got a few others including HH Regal. Missed my #1 which was 20th Ave Pink Cloud. Next year 😁

Emilyp

DarcyD Pink Cloud was my number 1 too, that color! Rich always has such beautiful introductions. Next year 🙂

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