General Dahlia Chat 2023

blown_dry · 2023-02-04T23:41:17+00:00

Continuing from https://cubits.org/Dahlias/thread/view/91587/?offset=560#end_of_thread

Krista

Bessie Oh yes, I can share photos!

Juliarugula

Juliarugula I feel like some dahlias just aren’t easily captured in photographs for whatever reason.

So, here’s the opposite. I’ve seen many a picture of Crazy 4 Teedy that blew me away. I had to have it - it looked so amazing! I was lucky enough to be able to pick up a couple of tubers, and when it bloomed, eh…. I wasn’t so crazy about Crazy 4 Teedy. I figured I might as well take a photo anyway. Whatever.

I could just look at this photo all day (But not the flower itself)! It’s gorgeous! And I wasn’t really even trying to get a good photo. 🤣🤣. It’s so weird!

MissyWeitzel

I've been upset that the 3 Irish blackheart tubers I ordered (not from Birch Bay unfortunately) were mislabeled. Then I thought, 'well at least they're a usable color for my florists and at least they're planted in with the other stellar dahlias'. Now I'm wondering if I have a white sport. This isn't mature yet but it's the best pic I have. Since Irish Blackheart is stellar I have no idea what size the blooms are or if this is could actually possibly a sport. I think I'll email the Boleys to see what they think!

Krista

MissyWeitzel I think that’s a great idea! In case it’s representative of the standard, the Irish Blackheart I saw at the show was about 3”.

MissyWeitzel

Krista thank you, that helps! This definitely is about the same size.

MissyWeitzel

Well Mr. Boley got back to me super quickly and basically said Irish Blackheart has never sported and that this dahlia does not look like anything they have. So I guess I just have a random creamy white mislabeled variety. Ahhh well.

SteveM

Irish Blackhart sports readily (for me), mostly to a solid red with varying degrees of white florets. I almost prefer the mutated novelty over the perfect color symmetry of the "true" Blackhart (although both are stunning). Last year all 50 of my Irish Blackhart plants sported, mostly to red with varying degrees of white but some predominately white with a few red florets. It appears my original mother plant is still true. I notice a few vendors are only offering a sported version for sale. ( e.g., https://chelanbuttedahliary.com/product/irish-blackhart/ ) If possible, I would source it from the Boleys if I wanted the original.

MissyWeitzel

SteveM thank you for your response! I'd love to see a picture of your sported ones if you have one. 😊

calico20hill

I would source it from the Boley's and also hang onto the cream sport. The cream sport would be lovely for cut flowers,,,much easier to work with then one with contrasting colors. It could be interesting to back cross them and see what you get.

MissyWeitzel

calico20hill Great idea, thank you! I am so curious now if any of the red will show up later in the season. I'll take a nicer picture when the blooms are fully open and post it in a couple days.
I definitely will try to order Irish Blackheart from Birch Bay next season, as well as every other waterlily they have that I should have ordered this past year. 😊

Krista

Wondering if anyone knows anything about the referenced “DVD Tel with David Boyd, Roger Turrell, Derek Hewlett and Robin Pearce” mentioned in this thread and whether it’s available anywhere still?

KitCMC

Krista

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRTFrNUD2TA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQLPlfozQFk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KPijP2sPF8k

?? Maybe this??

Krista

KitCMC Wow, MVP! Thank you, Cate!!!!

blown_dry

KitCMC Score!!

Bessie

I've got a Dahlia(cutting I think) that is obviously mislabeled. My best guess is it's Hollyhill Black Widow. I don't have a reference bloom yet to compare to. This first bloom is about 5", with strong, slightly red stems. About 3' tall at this point, and a beautiful stocky plant. Ideas?

calico20hill

Isn't Hollyhill Black Widow a waterlily?

NCDahlia

yes its a WL. And the above to me does not look like black widow. believe ted said black widow was before black beauty but he can correct me if wrong

https://hollyhilldahlias.aroundbeantown.com/HHVarieties/BlackWidow.html

Teddahlia

Black Widow was released long before Black Beauty and they are probably not very related to each other. My picture in the link you posted is what it looks like. It has more rounded tips than your flower. It also sports to a maroon purple and that is irrelevant to this discussion. I do not recognize your flower.
2021 seedling of Black Beauty and it looked nice this year.

Bessie

Teddahlia thanks Ted for the confirmation. I guess I'll have to wait until some of the dahlias bloom, and then to figure this out. It's definitely not what's labeled, Hollyhill Lilibet.😳
I have that blooming and know what it looks like.

MissyWeitzel

Does anyone know if two dahlias exist, both a Clearview Mick and a Clearview Mick S? Or are they one in the same? My friend gave tubers to me and called them Clearview Mick. ADS lists a CV Mick as a B ID PR, which fits. Then I also find pictures of a CV Mick S online that looks like what I have.

blown_dry

MissyWeitzel I have CV Mick S in my database FWIW. I hope someone lists it for 2024! Yum.

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