2025 Seedlings

Bessie · 2025-04-01T16:33:09+00:00

This year, 2025, has been challenging to get healthy Dahlia seedlings! Still trying to figure out the many ways I've gone wrong. I dumped about 30-40 seedlin...

SteveM

Teddahlia one has been introduced.

It's one on the top row, I'm going to guess the second one (top right).

Teddahlia

There are only 4 of them and you have selected two of the wrong ones. Which has the best WL form?

Bessie

Teddahlia it's Hollyhill Daydream, the bottom right. For weeks I've been staring at it and the two similar seedlings I'm growing 😊.
.. I'm not afraid to speak out... and be wrong.

SteveM

@Teddahlia "#p17468 Which has the best WL form

Bottom left. This is the same logistic method I use to lose at Connections every day.

Teddahlia

Bessie: Bottom right is indeed a seedling of Daydream.

Teddahlia

Steve is right also. I deepened the color to throw people off but it is Honeygold.

BackyardBouquets_17

My whole dahlia patch, seedlings included is behind this year. I’m starting to wonder if I’m even going to see the majority of my seedlings even bloom in 2025 as some yrs we can have frost the first wk in sept..
Pic of the first seedling from this yr to bloom. I’m not to thrilled over the color ( I find it hard to like purples) but the bloom is at least 10 inch n on very strong tall stems. Lots of Petals.

Teddahlia

A 10 inch seedling is a monumental achievement and do not underestimate how good it is. People breed for many years and never get a seedling that big. Form and color are less important than "big" and there is a population of dahlia growers that only grow "big" dahlias and buy every new one that comes out. Be sure to keep this one.

Teddahlia

WL seedling in cream color. If it is a good one you know I will share more pictures. Hot weather recently and we will see how it does in normal weather.

Justafewdahlias

Teddahlia Hoping it’s a good one! This is one of my favorite colors for dahlias. I find cream pairs well with so many other colors. I can’t think of any cream colored WL dahlias. Yellow and white yes, but cream I’m drawing a blank

Bessie

Justafewdahlias in 2022 I received a mis-labeled unreleased tuber that was a cream colored waterlily from Hollyhill. It is the seed parent of one of my dahlias, so when I started mentioning it in this forum, @Teddahlia named it and released it. I'm not 100% sure that the Dahlia I have is the Dahlia he released as Hollyhill Creamy. It tends to go open center very easily, and it's seedlings so far are not impressive, except for prolific blooming 23049 which is an "almost waterlily", or "waterlily adjacent".

Hollyhill Creamy

Seedling of Hollyhill Creamy, 23049 The writing on the image is incorrect - Hollyhill Creamy is the SEED PARENT.

The writing on the image is incorrect - Hollyhill Creamy is the SEED PARENT.

Justafewdahlias

Just for fun/FYI (not planning to keep any as of now): all seedlings of Kelgi Ann, same pollen parent. These blooms are off of 3 different seedlings of the same hand cross

Bessie

Justafewdahlias I've found interesting good changes in second year seedlings, compared to how they bloomed the first year. If you have room, it might be worth learning if/how they look the second year. There's some deal breakers like down facing blooms, totally weak stems, etc. Thank you for sharing the results of your cross!

Teddahlia

Cream color? Hollyhill Creamy.

Teddahlia

Looks more like Snowqueen.

Bessie

Teddahlia I wish the flower I call Hollyhill Creamy looked more like Hollyhill Snow Queen! I like the blush color with a cool white undertone of Snow Queen. Hollyhill Creamy has a warm undertone in all seasons.

Teddahlia

Creamy is a 2017 seedling and much older than Snowqueen. Margaret culled most of our Creamy stock last year and we kept only two plants. She said the culled stock did not look like Creamy. I have not yet looked for the "new" Creamy in our garden and hope it does well and we will not be selling it. Meanwhile, lots of people say they really like Snowqueen(I only sort of like it) and Margaret is growing lots of it. New seedling is the correct color but we need to see it's form.

Teddahlia

Picture of one of Margaret's favorite seedlings from last year. The intention is to show it makes lots of flowers without revealing much else.

SteveM

@Justafewdahlias "#p17513 To my eyes, and on my monitor, those look cream color. At the least I would grow the top variety again to check its potential as a cut variety.

SteveM

This seedling bicolor combo would make a good test for cataracts. It has zero potential as a show, cut, or garden variety. Sometimes I will keep a seedling just because it has a trait I haven't seen before.

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