ID help?

Juliarugula

Anybody recognize this one? It’s very cute and a pretty color. Might it be Camano Zoe? (It’s a miniature for sure)

Emilyp

Juliarugula
Sometimes my 20th Avenue Memory flowers look a bit like your mystery flower. They grow on a medium height plant with nice thick stems.

JessieC

Juliarugula Returning to your mystery bloom, I am glad I took a closer look at what I have still blooming here yesterday. I put a Camano Zoe next to Odyssey, which was beaten down by spider mites or something awful early in the scalding heat of June and July. I saw this pretty pale pink one and just assumed it was C. Zoe, but on closer inspection, it is Odyssey! The plant survived after I chopped it down to nothing months ago. Here are some pics, with HH Miss White for comparison too.

I feel like Odyssey is what I hoped C. Zoe would be. @Teddahlia is right. C. Zoe has an ugly center at both ends of the season, and a very short window during which it looks good. I also like the one that you posted above. I was doubting if I’d keep Odyssey, since it succumbed to disease or pests. But I think it might replace C. Zoe, which has frustrated me for a few seasons.

Serenity_Base

Juliarugula
I think Pink Pearl but may later resemble wizard of Oz

Krista

That’s a really sweet bloom, I’m not sure who it is but I can share my Camano Zoe from last year as comparison - hope someone can help ID your pretty bloom!

Juliarugula

Krista Thanks for the photo comparison!

Teddahlia Yes, you’re definitely right about all those points now that I compare Krista’s photo.

I may have to email the seller, but this was a bonus tuber, so I don’t want to seem like I’m complaining. Just curious as to what it is. The only thing in her online presence I see that’s close is Odyssey, but it’s pretty different from my own Odyssey which is a much purplier pink, and smaller.

Teddahlia

Zoe has a better center and the florets do not have the faint line in them. My opinion not Zoe.

JessieC

My Camano Zoe hasn’t bloomed yet this season. Last year, it varied quite a bit, but it looked a lot like yours. I’ll try to find some photos. The center was crap until September, as I recall. I did get a few Odyssey blooms this year, and they were much more pink/ lavender. It’s been so hot that most blooms have been kind of ugly, so I haven’t taken too many photos this year.
Whatever you’ve got, it’s beautiful! I loved CZ, especially when the centers behaved. It has a marshmallow puffiness that I really like.

JessieC

Ok here are some pics. The one in the vase is from October. The others are August. I am in Virginia, 7B. I liked CZ a lot and hope so see it again this year!
In the first pic, the three closest to the big purple one are all CZ. The others are HH Miss White and Small World.

Teddahlia

The show person in me dislikes green centers and your Camano Zoe has them. When fully mature they generally go away. I am prejudiced against CZ as when judging years ago, the entire judging team and the clerk ganged up on me to select CZ over my selection of a Barbarry Gem flower. I am not one to give up when I think I am right but they were unwavering in their selection of CZ. Of course, it went on to win an even higher award and they enjoyed saying "we told you so!"

JessieC

Teddahlia Well last season, I had very few without the green center, I’m afraid. This year’s batch probably won’t bloom for a few more weeks, so maybe they’ll be better. I know I’ve asked before, but when you say “fully mature,” you mean that a bloom that didn’t open prematurely due to the heat, correct? Green centers plague me in the heat of central VA, and last summer was far less oppressive.
Juliarugula I look forward to their reply! It’s such a pretty shape and color. I’m about done with CZ, so maybe your mystery variety will be a good choice for 2025. Odyssey was taken out by spider mites, and did not wow me at its debut.

Juliarugula

Well, I went ahead and emailed the seller to inquire about it, so maybe we’ll find out?

Juliarugula

JessieC

JessieC I look forward to their reply! It’s such a pretty shape and color. I’m about done with CZ, so maybe your mystery variety will be a good choice for 2025.

Whelp…. The bad news is that the seller had no idea what it was, but asks if I can send her some in the spring/fall. 🤣🤣

BackyardBouquets_17 As for the original question how does you id needed bloom compare to Irish D Porter

I haven’t grown Irish D Porter, so I can’t say for sure. I’m pretty sure this one is too big to be a Pom though.

BackyardBouquets_17

I absolutely love Pink Pearl. Was going to get Comano Zoe but the lady was sold out and after these bloomed I was glad I went this route instead . The pic does make em seem more lavender than they actually r

BackyardBouquets_17

As for the original question how does you id needed bloom compare to Irish D Porter?

Krista

Juliarugula asks if I can send her some in the spring/fall.

🤣 That’s good!

Teddahlia

Oversized micro seedling. They have to be less than 2 inches in diameter. I will measure again.

Juliarugula

Emilyp I have 20th Ave Memory and this is very different! More petals, smaller bloom, much more peachy-blushy.

I feel like some of JessieC’s Camano Zoe’s are close, but the petals on CZ are still noticeably elongated compared to these.

However, an argument in favor of Camano Zoe is that the tuber was labelled Canoz Jaguar, and I could see how a poorly written label might get transcribed wrong.

An argument against CZ is that I don’t see any evidence that the seller had that variety at any point.

Teddahlia

I am really impressed with most 20th Ave flowers. My first was 20th AVE Major but it makes no seed(one occasionally but not in my garden) My picture above is a flower only 2.25 inches in diameter. Going for micro fds.

Juliarugula

Ok new one. Does anybody know if this is Mingus Anita P? The only photo I can find online looks pretty different, although it wouldn’t be totally out of the question for it to be correct (colors looks approximately correct)

katyaker

Juliarugula I have Mingus Anita P. and got the tubers from the actual Anita (Mingus) Peterson who the dahlia is named after - Philip Mingus Sr's sister. Mine is quite a bit darker than this. Here is a photo I took of Mingus Anita P last week.

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However, this is what it looked like on 9/28/2022. Much more like yours.

Serenity_Base

Juliarugula
Nadia Ruth? maybe

Teddahlia

Pinelands Princess?

Juliarugula

Teddahlia Pinelands Princess?

I thought maybe too. But then I found a second picture of Mingus Anita that’s making me think maybe the id was correct after all. What do you think? Mine is much more fimbriated, but I’m thinking now that maybe it’s a correct ID after all.

(Funny - the photos have the blooms conveniently facing exactly the same direction…)