Gophers

SteveM · 2023-06-15T17:05:19+00:00

I am Carl in Caddyshack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NlQiQfC4zQ The wet winter resulted in a great supply of food for the mother gophers this year. Now...

Bessie

I started to dig up my Dahlias today. The seedlings were sunken in the ground, in hard plastic baskets from the dollar store. A gopher just had to get at seedling 23043...

Likely has tasty tubers. Gopher ate right through the plastic basket. The rectangular opening that serves as a handle was the starting point of the hole.

I still have 3 nice tubers on the clump, but rather dismayed. I despise gophers.

Krista

Bessie oh my, how discouraging! Happy to hear you’ve got three tubers, what a lovely bloom this seedling has!

Bessie

I planted all the dahlias in my yard in pots sunk in the ground. Most were in 1 gallon size pots, a few were in smaller size, such as 4-5" round pots.
Except for the few plants the gophers took out from the top, the tubers are preserved.
I think the tuber clumps would have been bigger if they had not been in pots, but I am thrilled I have tubers!! With 30 inches of rain this winter, and no special mulching, these tubers survived a very mild winter.
I just dug these clumps up, removing them from their pots and cleaning them up.

The below image shows an old tag, should read Hollyhill Creamy

SteveM

Bessie Nice looking clumps! Did the gophers eat through any of the 1-gallon nursery pots? I am going to plant all of my seedlings in 1-gal nursery pots but am debating whether to bury them in the field (with the gophers/voles) or to grow them on the bench.

Juliarugula

This post makes me so happy we don’t have gophers around here…. 😬

Teddahlia

Juliarugula Tubers arrived in good condition and you read Margaret's mind by enclosing an HH Diamond tuber!

Bessie

SteveM I've not seen gophers eating through the pots, so far. Like I mentioned, I had a 2' bushy Maarn plant taken out at the base of the stock, and the same for a nice sized Precious plant. Both were in sunken 1 gallon pots. I feel lucky to not have lost the tubers. I had one nice 2023 seedling lost completely to a gopher. However in that case the gopher came in over the top of the basket that was buried in the ground. I'm gonna brave planting my seedlings in the ground, in pots. I don't have many options. If I get a nice flower that appears to be a keeper, I'll take a few cuttings right away.

Bessie

SteveM I talked myself into planting the nicest seedlings in the ground while still in their growing containers, not moving them into 1 gallon pots. I figured if renowned hybridizers can plant seedlings in 4" pots sunk in the ground, I can follow their lead. Most of the plants are in 18 ounce "red cups", and some are in 24 ounce nursery containers that perennials are typically sold in. I cut slits in the bottom of the pots to help the roots escape. 44 nice seedlings planted so far 😳, which is around 25% of the total. I'm considering planting the smaller growing seedlings 3 or 4" on center, in a grouping. I figure it's better than dumping them( which has gone through my mind after @Teddahlia said weak growing plants are just not that good). Laziness runs through my blood, at times, where I search for the easiest solution to a problem.

SteveM

Bessie It will be interesting to follow how they do. I am probably going to grow about 100 seedlings in 1-gallon nursery pots. I might grow half on the bench and half of them buried in the field.

Bessie

SteveM with the rainy winter, I will not have to stress water usage as in past years. However, the gophers flock to moist areas. I might have to devise a trap area for them, where I have deep moist soil that they will be attracted to.
I'll be interested to hear about the progress of your seedlings!

NCDahlia

I am doing mine in 2 gallon pots

CN-NCIM-0600 from green house megastore , they are more expensive as more than $1 per but i figure if i get 5 years out of them it will be worth it. I also got some cheaper ones from amzn 1 gallon last year they did well but they are 1 use as it split the pot getting them out.

SteveM

NCDahlia Do you bury the 2-gal pots? How do you water?

NCDahlia

SteveM Burying them in the ground , drip line on top.

SteveM

I am only growing about 800-900 plants this year (plus seedlings). I have buried 1.5' X 2' bulb crates to plant half of my dahlias. I buried 3' hardware cloth to plant the other half. This means I will do double-wide rows instead of single rows (I prefer single rows). This should keep the gophers out but might not have much affect on voles which feed mostly from the top. (they chew the stems at ground level and/or eat the tops of my tubers). The voles have become a bigger problem after I started using shade cloth. I assume it is because the owls/hawks can not get to them so they feel safe in their all-you-can-eat-buffet.

NCDahlia

And I am putting down hardware cloth too on bottom and possible on top depending when the stalk sprouts , then leaving 2 - 3 inches for it to grow around, gonna be a royal pain. Worse case I just give up growing them if this fails again 🤣 I am doing 400 - 500 I think maybe less will see how i feel

BackyardBouquets_17

Those of you with gopher problems would it work to do something like a raised bed with your mesh on the bottom. Could easily add it to the top as well if needed.
I know it may not be feasible for growing tons of dahlias but maybe it would protect those extra special or high $$ ones. Your buried pots or the cage system are probably just as easy or easier.

Just an idea I had while reading over some of the messages. I didn’t read all the way back so maybe you do that already or it’s not of any interest. 😀
I had voles eat a lot of my tulip bulbs one yr. That summer we got a Jack Russel dog who liked to prowl the garden as well as I saw serveral snakes in my garden and the next yr had zero damage to the bulbs.

calico20hill

That is the way my raised garden beds are built and I have had zero trouble with critters chewing the roots. My ducks will also hapily chase down and kill any little creatures like voles that they
spot...chickens will do this also. I do get a lot of moles in the garden pushing up the landscape cloth in the pathways...The moisture from watering my raised beds seem to attract them. Since they can not come up in the beds due to the wire they use the pathways to do their tunneling under. LIttle nuisances!

Juliarugula

Teddahlia great to hear! I remember you saying a while back that your stock of HH Diamond wasn’t great. Hopefully this one will do better for you!

NCDahlia

I got in my 2nd order of the 2 gallon pots from Greenhouse Mega Store. They are doing a sale now of 25% off but you have to order more than $75 worth so for 100 2 gallon pots , and these are extremely sturdy ones the injection mold its $105 + tax with free shipping.

Shocks me because its like 3 giant huge boxes from FedEx and it's shipped for free. I am just about ready to go for planting. Waiting on 4 more orders in. Assuming I get rivers dahlia order shipped this week or next. I do not like to email and pester till if its past mother's day then I start to wonder lol.

Bellatrix likes to sleep in the seedling potting mix I make lol she's killed 30 moles + voles so far this year so she can just sleep wherever, most of the time its by the dahlias under the live oak tree think it's how she hunts them at night.

JessieC

This is not a gopher, but I’m filing under “critter report” here. This mama bunny was nursing her three babies right behind one of my dahlia beds the other night. Unfortunately, they’re so cute that I can’t disturb them. Moments later, there was a big fat groundhog out there, and I invited my dogs to go take a look. They stared at me because it was dinner time and they were stationed next to the kibble bin 🙄

I blocked the hole where I saw the groundhog had dug its way in. As for the rabbits, I don’t think there’s a way to keep them out. We live in the city, albeit a small one.